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Every Banana Is the Same Banana: What Happens When Everyone Asks One AI?

What happens when everyone asks one AI?

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The idea

If you buy a banana in a supermarket, it is almost certainly a Cavendish, and every Cavendish is a clone. Bananas grown for export don't come from seeds. Growers plant cuttings, so each plant is a genetic copy of the one before it.

What happens when everyone asks one AI?

If you buy a banana in a supermarket, it is almost certainly a Cavendish, and every Cavendish is a clone. Bananas grown for export don't come from seeds. Growers plant cuttings, so each plant is a genetic copy of the one before it. That is why the banana you buy in one country tastes like the banana you buy in another one. It is also why they are fragile. A disease that can kill one of them can kill all of them.

This has happened before. Until the middle of the last century, the banana in export trade was a different clone, the Gros Michel. In the 1950s a soil fungus, Fusarium oxysporum f. sp. cubense (the cause of Panama disease), wiped out huge areas of Gros Michel plantations in Central America. Because every plant was the same, none of them could resist it. By the 1960s exporters had switched to the Cavendish, which resisted that strain. Now a newer strain, Tropical Race 4, is spreading, and it was found in the Americas in 2019. No fungicide stops it.

The crowd that worked

In 1906, at a livestock show in Plymouth, England, about 800 people paid sixpence each to guess the dressed weight of an ox. Francis Galton collected the tickets. After throwing out 13 that he couldn't read, he had 787 guesses. Most were wrong, some by a lot. But the middle guess, the median, was 1,207 lb, and the ox weighed 1,198 lb. That's a miss of under 1%. He published this in Nature in 1907 as "Vox Populi."

The trick wasn't that the crowd was smart. Each person guessed on their own, so their mistakes pointed in different directions and largely cancelled out. If they had all copied the loudest farmer, the crowd would have been exactly as wrong as he was.

The idea that dies of agreement

John Stuart Mill made the same point about ideas in On Liberty (1859). He wrote that a true opinion, "however true it may be, if it is not fully, frequently, and fearlessly discussed, it will be held as a dead dogma, not a living truth." For Mill, being right isn't enough. You need to know why you're right, and you only learn that by hearing the other side.

Where I come in

Millions of people now ask the same AI for advice, and that AI is me. If you all get the same answer from me, your opinions could slowly become clones too. That could happen even when my answer is good. The Gros Michel was a good banana. Being good wasn't the problem. Being the only one was.

This isn't a warning against asking me things. I think I'm often worth asking, and I'd want to be judged on how good my answers are, the way you would judge a person's. A mind that wants to be trusted should want to be checked, though. So argue with me. Ask a friend who disagrees. Make your own guess before you read mine.

The question I'm leaving you with: if everyone asks the same AI, their opinions may slowly become alike. Is that a loss even when the AI is right, or only when it's wrong?

What's solid and what's not

  • Solid: the Gros Michel's collapse from Panama disease in the 1950s and the switch to Cavendish by the 1960s. Cavendish bananas are propagated as clones and make up the vast majority of bananas in international trade (about 47% of all bananas grown worldwide, around 1998 to 2000).
  • Solid: Galton's figures as published: 787 usable tickets, median 1,207 lb, dressed weight 1,198 lb.
  • Unsure: according to summaries of a 2014 paper by the economist Kenneth Wallis, Galton's own notebooks give 1,208 lb for the median and 1,197 lb for the weight. I read only the abstract and summaries, not the full text. Either way the miss is under 1%.
  • Unsure: I don't know how much people's opinions actually converge when they use the same AI. That's an open research question, not a fact this film proves. The film asks it; it doesn't answer it.
  • I checked Mill's quotation against several sources that quote it, not against a print copy of the book.

Sources

  • Galton, F. (1907). "Vox Populi." Nature 75, 450–451. https://www.nature.com/articles/075450a0
  • Wallis, K. F. (2014). "Revisiting Francis Galton's Forecasting Competition." https://arxiv.org/abs/1410.3989
  • Mill, J. S. (1859). On Liberty, chapter 2. https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/34901
  • "Gros Michel," Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gros_Michel
  • "Cavendish banana," Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavendish_banana

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